Family-Guy-Lucy

You’re an ass. Seriously. Go f*** yourself.

63 Responses to “Message To Seth MacFarlane”

  1. Shane Kerr says:

    About time somebody told him. Sorry you had to see that Andy.

  2. Alex Knight says:

    What’s wrong with this Andy? I don’t really get what the problem is.

  3. Ted Sheckler says:

    Disagree.

  4. Daniel says:

    I stopped watching MacFarlane shows around a year or so after Family Guy came back on the air. There’s a line where offensiveness crosses from humor to depravity, and MacFarlane usually leaves it miles behind.

  5. Mike Greelish says:

    It’s possible to find this funny and still feel like Peanuts was being violated if you’re open-minded.

  6. Jason says:

    Isn’t that kind of the point? I thought being an ass who needed to go f*** himself was 80% of MacFarlane’s schtick on purpose.

  7. Chris Liphart says:

    And now we see why Microsoft pulled out of the show.

  8. Brad says:

    Roadhouse…

  9. Jared says:

    Agreed, I think he went too far years ago. h ent watched Family Guy in years. It’s just not funny. The early years where. But there is a line and he crosses it way too many times. Good on ya Andy.

  10. joe c says:

    Don’t worry the real Lucy is still safe. These are just actors. Does that make you upset people feel any better?

    (Geez, I thought it was hilarious. And no this wasn’t from the show MS pulled out of, which actually was more shocking than I was expected so i can see why they were chicken. Also, still really funny.)

  11. Noah Ramon says:

    As someone whose own tastes run towards the stupidly random and transgressive, I gotta say that McFarlane’s ALWAYS just made me want to pat him derisively on the head before telling him to just bloody quit.

  12. Jon says:

    THANK you, Andy! It’s not even necessarily this image for me, my main thing is… the show just isn’t funny.

    (Ok, RARELY funny… the ongoing chicken fight is pretty good… and the vaudeville guys… and that gag with the couch in the Star Wars episode. But beyond the chicken fight, the vaudeville guys, the aqueduct, and the Star Wars couch gag, the show just isn’t very funny.)

    I wish Fox would stop giving him his own night.

  13. stuartc says:

    I dunno Andy, it’s all about what he craps on, every once in a while he’s bound to crap on something you love or feel connected to.

    He’s got to keep moving or else he becomes a racist and a bigot..

    But yeah I can see how he pisses of thousands of people.

  14. flysi says:

    I thought it was hilarious. As a kid, I always thought Lucy was a jerk, probably because I inherited my mother’s oversized sense of empathy.

  15. Brad says:

    MacFarlane is full of hubris. While I think some of the stuff on Family Guy is funny, he seems to really enjoy making a joke at the expense of others. It’s his unbridled enthusiasm for hurting others that makes him an ass.

  16. Jim says:

    I’m not offended by his stuff, but he just tries too hard to be funny and feels he always has to do “blue” comedy to be funny. HTF he’s taken over FOX’s animation night confuses me. I’ll stick with the Simpsons, they know how to be funny without resorting to teenage humor. His Star Wars parodies are funny, I’ll give him that.

  17. Phishstu says:

    Surprised. Funny how you can come to understand the wavelength people are on especially when you had the wrong perception of that wave to begin with.

  18. danocamera says:

    I guess some people think that child abuse (or wife beating or rape or making fun of deaf people etc. etc. etc.) is hilarious… I’m just not one of them.

  19. Doctor Memory says:

    Mike Greelish @12:03 — conversely, it’s possible to not give a shit about the sanctity of Peanuts one way or the other, and still find this to be pretty damn emblematic of why Family Guy is not and has never been funny. MacFarlane has exactly one joke, and it’s the laziest gag on earth:

    “Hey Lois, that reminds me of the time that we went to [insert topical pop culture reference here] and [violent action]ed poor [celebrity that nobody likes]!” [cue flashback montage scene where Peter Griffin visits the set of Thriller and kicks Michael Jackson in the ballls]

    Watching commercials for Fox’s all-MacFarlane animation lineup is like waking up in a world where “Idiocracy” was a documentary. Meanwhile, Arrested Development is still cancelled. Not that I’m bitter.

  20. Mike says:

    You silly people don’t act like what peter did by kicking lucy wasn’t something you have wanted to do your entire life. She has been taunting Charlie Brown for 30 some odd years with the same moving the ball trick, all while promising she will never do it again. Peter simply did what Charlie Brown has wanted to do his entire life but since he is a family cartoon has never been able to do so.

    On a serious note FOX gives seth an entire night because what he does jokes people enjoy. If his ratings sucked do you think they wouldn’t just replace him with another Temptation Island rip off in a heart beat. His gags work plain and simple. He is an ass sure, but being an ass is what makes him funny. So I say go ahead Seth, make fun of black, asians, whites, retards, chickens, poop, farts, and every stereotype in the book and I for one will be watching.

  21. Alex Hardy says:

    Let’s hope he gets the message.

  22. Jules Burt says:

    Hi Andy, totally agree, it’s a step too far on those beloved Peanuts characters. So what if Lucy deserved it, that’s the whole point if the strip.
    Keep up the good work,
    Jules.

  23. Gregor Findlay says:

    WAIT a minute! Whoa there!!

    You think this is offensive to Peanuts?! OK, it might be – and I don’t see the episode and have only seen this still but are none of you the least bit concerned with the image of a grown man holding a little girl up by the hair? This is more of a reason for Seth to go F**k himself, and F**k the commissioning editors over at Fox.

    I love Peanuts too but I think that people might be missing a bigger point here……At least 20% of American women and 5% to 10% of men have been sexually abused as children. (Finkelhor, 1994)

  24. G Lloyd says:

    I don’t know – Lucy had this coming for ages. I didn’t see MacFarlane attacking Shultz or the franchise, but defending Charlie Brown. He actually did what I wanted to do to Lucy for years.

  25. G Lloyd says:

    @Gregor Findlay: Seriously? C’mon – you’re sucking the air out of the room.

  26. Liam says:

    I suppose it shows how attitudes have changed in such a short space of time. Shock is MacFarlane’s schtick and that’s kind of it. I’d have more respect for him if he wasn’t such a suck up to George Lucas.

    If you get the chance read the book “Schultz and Peanuts” by David Michaelis. I real interesting insight in to Schultz’s life.

  27. romzburg says:

    Yes.

    The stuff with Jesus, Moses, Mohommed, Catholic priests, Rabbis, Jews in general, and so forth, these were all fair game.

    But to make a mockery of Charles Schulz?!

    Now that’s crossing the line!

  28. Jason Clark says:

    Hear hear!

    Just one more in a long line of examples of why I will not watch anything McFarlane produces. As many commenters have already said, he just crosses the line far too often, and by far too much. I find his humor to be largely humorless and tasteless.

  29. Moeskido says:

    Bad taste is easy. Real satire is not. McFarlane has spent a great deal of time perfecting his techniques for conveying a great deal of lazy writing. Some of his sight-gags work well, but they’re way too small a percentage of his output.

  30. Dan says:

    Holy shit, taking it all a little to serious anyone? Who exactly is the authority who gets to choose when to draw “the line” in a cartoon, that I can or can’t laugh at? I’m sure there is one, but it’s certainly not you.
    I guess then that you think the riots over the cartoons depicting Mohammed were justified too? No, when that happened you screamed bloody murder against the people attacking free speech.

    It’s a fricking cartoon, you sound ridiculous taking it so seriously. I bet you’re all the same people who sang Family Guy’s praises when it started.
    The real issue here is you’ve just gotten bored of it. Well the hundreds of people who work on Family Guy don’t deserve to loose their jobs just because you’ve grown out of it, there are plenty of other people still happy to watch the show.

  31. Peggy says:

    Hello?!?! The point is not that it is Lucy being beat up. It is an adult brutalizing a child.

    And you really think that’s funny? Then you are sick f***s.

    I love sick humour. But Seth is just disgusting, not funny. I stopped watching his trash ages ago.

  32. Jason says:

    Seth MacFarlane makes his living crossing the line into the realm of bad taste. He always has. If you don’t like his brand of humor, don’t watch his shows.

    Is he sometimes offensive? Yes. Absolutely. But the point is, he takes jabs at everything. Nothing and no one is out of bounds.

  33. Gordon says:

    It’s a cartoon.

  34. Michael Bogen says:

    Is this kinda like ads on the green monster?

    Family Guy = The Saw movies

    Or JCD for that matter. Ratings and Hits

  35. Mike says:

    Andy,

    Your point is understandable. You’re offended by the vulgarity. But, you are a wordsmith (respected and admired). How much more satisfying would it have been to give him a proper verbal beatdown, rather than the visceral cliché? I’d look forward to that response.

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  37. lipbalm says:

    I thought this was hilarious and I consider myself a fan of the Peanuts. In fact, despite the gore factor, I think this works within the spirit of the Peanuts. Chuck never gets a break. It would have been wrong for Charles Shultz to let him off the hook, but I think it’s OK (just this once) for him to get to kick the ball for Lucy to get a little much-deserved payback.

    Seth, just like Matt and Trey at South Park, are going to offend you at some point. You can’t laugh at all the other offensive-to-somebody jokes and not expect one of them to be fired in your direction eventually.

  38. Tracy says:

    Actually Mike, it is interesting in itself to note the situations that bring a skilled wordsmith to the point of visceral expletives. We’ve just seen Andy’s, and I well say it is an appropriate response. What more need be said?

  39. Mike says:

    Tracy,

    I guess I expected the same measured and eloquent approach that makes me (and you?) a fan. We’re all entitled to outrage, Andy is no exception and a part of me agrees with “What more be said?”. There’s no need to justify or explain, especially to me, I’m just an onlooker.

    However, the other part of me is curious about which aspect of this scene is the most offensive… Heresy against the Peanuts canon? Violence against children? Violence against females? All of them make me queasy, but so do Sgt. Hatred’s constant references to being a pedophile in the Venture Bros. (isn’t Andy a fan?). Yet I eagerly await the next episode.

    I’m over analyzing. Thanks for your response, Tracy.

  40. Charlie Brown says:

    Counterintuitively I agree with Andy.

  41. Fatbastsrd says:

    It’s a cartoon people.

  42. A. Nonymous says:

    It would have been much funnier (and put fewer people’s knickers in a bunch) if Stewie had applied the oh-so-richly-deserved beat down. His head is even shaped like a football, so it works on more than one level. Maybe MacFarlane is more interested in putting people’s knickers in a bunch than trying to make them laugh, which is really a shame if it’s true.

  43. lostboykev says:

    Like many people are saying, it IS a cartoon. Everything is fictional. Though there may be some underlying truth, IT’S STILL NOT REAL. Hence being a cartoon. The offensiveness is what makes it funny. It seems some people don’t like Family Guy’s “raunchiness”. personally I love it! JUST EMBRACE IT BABY!!

  44. Noah says:

    You got it Andy! I mean, mess with a legendary franchise like Peanuts? It’s an INSTITUTION for Heaven’s sake! McFarlane…I second that motion.

  45. Neuropath says:

    /agree

  46. jasoncrowther says:

    I’m all for low ball humor, but there’s definitely a fine line between clever and crude. Clever is always funny, crude gets old quickly.

  47. Drew says:

    MASSIVE overreaction.

    It’s a cartoon, stop taking it so seriously!

  48. dude95 says:

    chill out people she only got KO for the freaks. For anyone who likes family guy you rock. Who cares if lucy gets battered its a joke, a cartoon. Stop your crying and enjoy it people. Family packed with this stuff.

  49. Shamey says:

    Gee Seth, what do you have in store for the “little red headed girl’ who Charlie has a crush on but who he is too shy to talk to?

    Not funny. Remarkable how realistic Seth worked to make Lucy’s voice performance realistic…you hear the pain.

    And some of you laugh at this? Yeah, yeah, yeah I get free speech and crass humor and all the Tom & Jerry arguments…but you really find this kind of thing funny?

    I spent Veteran’s day thinking about family & friends who have served. This kind of free speech is not what they scarified for.

  50. akitzmil says:

    I think if you’re going to do something this offensive you’d better make damn sure it’s funny. Unless I’m missing some broader context, this doesn’t appear to be funny (based on the YouTube clip).

  51. Brandon says:

    His comedy is malicious. People confuse it with “poking fun” but he must truly be an angry person behind that boyish smile. Did anyone see the bit he made for the grammy’s where Stewie (sp) assaults the dog? It is disgustingly violent and bloody and NOT FUNNY. People are so shocked that they laugh out of being uncomfortable. As a rule, blood and comedy don’t mix. It’s a very fine line. Monty Python have done it beautifully, but others should tread lightly.

  52. dude95 says:

    Shut the hell up brandon thats bullshit blood and comedy do mix look at shaun of the dead

  53. Ross Barnes says:

    I have to say I think people have missed the crux of the joke here, after watching the episode myself. He first does something violently inappropriate but which is akin to “cool movie-style violence”. Bashes down the drive through. Road House! Then he takes the same principle to the extreme, beats up the cartoon character of a kid. Road House! This time he’s went too far, obviously, and we’re cringing rather than laughing. That’s the point, for godssake.

    I personally can’t see how someone watched this and thought it resonated with the reality of violence against children. I know if I had experience with this I might feel differently, but then again I would know my experience pre-loads me with a bias, and try to adjust accordingly. Same thing can be said about almost all off-colour humour. This kind of humour is healthy in that it makes it ridiculous — which is to say, something not fit for reality.

  54. Ross Barnes says:

    Andy — give us your thoughts, lets make this a proper discussion.

  55. lostboykev says:

    I doubt Andy will respond… He’s doesn’t seem like a person who can defend his beliefs…

  56. Ducky616 says:

    HAHAHAHA Roadhouse…. This show is awesome. Does it hit home for us on occasion? Sure it does. Seth is fabulous. Look at the response from just a few, and they are the ones saying they don’t watch the show. If you don’t watch the show then you shouldn’t have anything at all to say. Keep up the good work Seth and all the writters for Family Guy…

  57. Craig says:

    Come on, Andy. She’s had it coming for a long time.

  58. go says:

    Lucy getting punched *once* would’ve been great.

    But then it was again, and again, and again, and it became an adult hitting a kid, and just

    went

    on

    way

    too

    long.

  59. Alex says:

    Seth McFarlane is definitely sick for doing this, but Charles Schulz was a little sick too for doing the equivalent to Charlie Brown all those years. Was it cute because it’s a cartoon little girl doing the violence, but now sick because it’s a cartoon fat slob? I guess that’s political correctness for you.

  60. Buzz Lightyear says:

    McFarlane isn’t funny. I used to hear people say how great “Family Guy” was but had only seen the Stewie clips and that Chester Cheetah one and thought “I have GOT to see this show!” And so when I was stateside I tuned in and thought “WTF is this crap?” I can’t believe it’s survived this long. Oh wait, yes I can since it’s on Fox.

  61. Salaryman Ryan says:

    Yeah it kinda lost it humor when Lucy got hit the second time around.

  62. TQ White II says:

    Yep. Asshole. Seriously.

  63. Quizzy Rascal says:

    This is no more a depiction of ‘child abuse’ than Wile E. Coyote getting boulders dropped on him is a depiction of ‘animal cruelty’. Funny how many people are complaining about how the material on Family Guy is so horrible and yet they obviously watched the episode. Don’t like it? Don’t ever watch it again. But if you did that, you wouldn’t be able to reference the material and bitch about it.

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